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2 Independence 2 Referendum
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Shuto Makino
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09-13-2020, 11:09 AM -
The SNP were known as the Tartan Tories as recently as the 1990s, and while they have changed over that period, the older wing of the party didn't just disappear.

I think Morph is probably right that part of the independence movement has convinced itself that the romanticised vision of Scotland as a left-wing nation is fact - although I think that people are less convinced of that now than they were in 2014. I also think that the people who think this way are among the least politically literate in the yes movement, and in practice won't really know the difference if an independent Scotland ends up with a centre-right government, provided it uses 'progressive' enough rhetoric. I don't know any left-wing indy supporters who take an active interest in politics and are under any illusions regarding how an independent Scotland would look in practice.
(08-21-2017, 01:25 PM)i8hibsh Wrote: I AM A LONER BY CHOICE
I AM SINGLE BY CHOICE
I HAVE NO KIDS BY CHOICE

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09-13-2020, 11:13 AM -
(09-13-2020, 11:09 AM)Makween Wrote: The SNP were known as the Tartan Tories as recently as the 1990s

More like 2019 if you check VS’ post history. Warnock
(08-02-2018, 09:04 AM)Mags Wrote: A resposta é Sim.

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09-13-2020, 12:08 PM -
The “they think it will be a socialist utopia” is a no voter trope.
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09-13-2020, 12:21 PM -
(09-13-2020, 11:13 AM)Acey Exotic Wrote: More like 2019 if you check VS’ post history. Warnock

2020 Greggy
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09-13-2020, 12:24 PM -
(09-13-2020, 12:08 PM)S.J. Wrote: The “they think it will be a socialist utopia” is a no voter trope.

Undoubtedly, but I don't think it's entirely unfounded. There are people who think that way; the issue is with no voters acting as though it's representative of the entire yes movement (many of whom wouldn't even want a socialist utopia).
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09-13-2020, 03:12 PM -
(09-13-2020, 12:24 PM)Makween Wrote: Undoubtedly, but I don't think it's entirely unfounded. There are people who think that way; the issue is with no voters acting as though it's representative of the entire yes movement (many of whom wouldn't even want a socialist utopia).

Agreed. Every lie is laced with a grain of truth.
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09-18-2020, 04:27 PM -
(08-02-2018, 09:04 AM)Mags Wrote: A resposta é Sim.

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09-18-2020, 04:29 PM -
Shock he’s a hun :Get To Woy
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09-18-2020, 06:01 PM -
Remind me of all the great political achievements the SNP have made since the last referendum
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09-18-2020, 06:04 PM -
Boring repeating this, but independence doesn’t mean an SNP government forever
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09-18-2020, 06:56 PM -
The neverendum does though Robbie
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09-18-2020, 07:06 PM -
(09-18-2020, 06:01 PM)Vlad-Covid Wrote: Remind me of all the great political achievements the SNP have made since the last referendum

You really should be asking why both their and indy support is rising, despite having a patchy record and being in power for over a decade?

'Folk are stupid, LOLZ' isnt the answer.
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09-18-2020, 07:25 PM -
Clue: It's a blonde haired buffoon
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09-18-2020, 07:37 PM -
(09-18-2020, 07:25 PM)Vlad-Covid Wrote: Clue: It's a blonde haired buffoon

To a point. The increase for both has been rising since before he came in, its just jumped a bit more and stayed steadier with him in power.

If he was to leave, do you think we'd see a dramatic slump for both?
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09-18-2020, 08:18 PM -
Hopefully shittea

Doesn’t really matter which one of those cunts is in tbh I suppose
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09-21-2020, 08:07 AM -
Shall we make the referendum itself online? jjay If you can't work a mouse you don't get a vote.
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09-21-2020, 09:11 AM -
It is a fucking disgrace that selfish old cunts like VS, who won’t even be around for much longer, will do their best to block the will of the guid scotch people.

Disenfranchise the over 50s pls.
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09-24-2020, 12:22 PM -
https://twitter.com/LeaskyHT/status/1309084754092929026

Mhods, posthumously change Mags' username to Wacko Goober pls Jj zing
(08-02-2018, 09:04 AM)Mags Wrote: A resposta é Sim.




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