01-22-2017, 08:32 AM
01-22-2017, 08:36 AM
Is the guy a nazi? I don't know much about Richard Spencer but I wasn't aware of that.
Shaun - They didn't engage and debate them, they ignored and misunderstood them for years, put them on a show trial to humiliate their leaders and ultimately propelled them into their position by failing to understand the popularity of their message.
01-22-2017, 08:36 AM
(01-22-2017, 08:29 AM)Donald Dank Wrote: If it had been some wee wannabe brownshirt smacking some radical left wing speaker the act would be the same, but a lot more people would be talking about the worrying descent towards violence society was slipping into. If a radical left wing speaker held the same sort of views as Richard Spencer does then they would deserve a smack as well. What is it with alt-right cuck/snowflakes/rightard etc etc that can give it out but can't take it. Maybe time to find a safe space.
01-22-2017, 08:40 AM
Listen to his views and engage (01-22-2017, 08:40 AM)Alan Partridge Wrote: From reading that, I don't recognise Dank's description that he is someone who is misunderstood. I think it's way too early to begin violence so I condemn that punch, but if white supremacist policies are enacted then a civil war is of course inevitable. Im quite shaken by Trump's speech. I expected a continuation of populist rhetoric, but it veered heavily into nationalist fundamentalism. Right out of any dictator's playbook.
01-22-2017, 08:48 AM
Trump could be the greatest American president ever. He might bring millions upon millions of jobs back to America. The sad consequence of him is cunts like Richard Spencer have been legitimised and eventually that is going to manifest itself into something terrible.
01-22-2017, 08:54 AM
(Edited 01-22-2017, 08:55 AM by Bill Cosby.)
In what way has Trump being elected legitimised a black genocide?
01-22-2017, 08:56 AM
Shut up.
01-22-2017, 09:07 AM
(Edited 01-22-2017, 09:07 AM by Bill Cosby.)
Stop talking shite and not expecting to be called out on it.
01-22-2017, 09:08 AM
Stop being a fucking mongo and deliberately misinterpreting what was said.
01-22-2017, 09:09 AM
Everyone calm down. We all broadly want the same things. This fighting has to stop.
01-22-2017, 09:14 AM
(Edited 01-22-2017, 09:15 AM by Bill Cosby.)
(01-22-2017, 09:08 AM)Alan Partridge Wrote: Stop being a fucking m***o and deliberately misinterpreting what was said. Spencer is a horrible Nazi who frequently speaks about a black genocide. You said that Trump being elected legitimised guy's like Spencer. Taking the high horse then using a word like mongo.
01-22-2017, 09:20 AM
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01-22-2017, 09:34 AM
(01-22-2017, 09:28 AM)Gregory Wrote: Far from it, I'm only familiar with very little bits of Richard Spencer's comments on things and none of it was as extreme as what AP had posted there but I hadn't heard him say anything that I considered interesting so never bothered to look into him further. This guy is about as fringe as it gets, I've seen him painted as some dangerous, charismatic leader of an Alt-Right movement but I think most of his profile comes from the people making negative reports about him. He's like the Roosh V race theory, pass.
01-22-2017, 09:36 AM
01-22-2017, 10:03 AM
(01-22-2017, 09:36 AM)Walter Sobchak Wrote: No you said the nazis were misunderstood. You're completely taking that out of the context in which it was written. Misunderstood in that their ambitions were not properly anticipated by some and that more radical aspects of their ideology were ignored by others, including national institutions like the church. (01-22-2017, 10:03 AM)Donald Dank Wrote: You're completely taking that out of the context in which it was written. Misunderstood in that their ambitions were not properly anticipated by some and that more radical aspects of their ideology were ignored by others, including national institutions like the church. In this analogy would you not be the one who is not anticipating the severity of these people's views and their ambition? While ignoring the more radical aspects of their ideology. Have you ever reflected upon whether you are the one who is misunderstanding the real motives of these Spencer types?
01-22-2017, 10:08 AM
01-22-2017, 10:18 AM
(01-22-2017, 10:07 AM)Gregory Wrote: In this analogy would you not be the one who is not anticipating the severity of these people's views and their ambition? I would be, but this was Shaun's analogy, I only responded to it because I felt that his suggestion that all it took for the Nazi's to do what they did was a platform. I'd also say that our societies are far more different, and even pre-war Britain wasn't in the same social and economic circumstances as Germany. If all it took was people to engage and debate then wouldn't Mosley and the British fascists have done similar to the Nazis of Germany? Out of interest what do you think his motives are? I think he jumped on the Alt-Right tag to carve out a platform for himself for financial gain. |
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