(09-25-2017, 11:18 PM)Craig Levein-Style Icon Wrote: Oh, I thought it was a population heat map where blue shows population density and red is wide open spaces full of people that fuck their sisters
It's a map of America not Edinburgh and Livingston.
(09-25-2017, 11:15 PM)Bobby Beg-B Wrote: The map always looks like that, because the Republicans' support is concentrated in more sparsely populated rural areas. It doesn't actually mean anything beyond being a fun graphical representation of what 3m fewer votes looks like in colour
The democrat vote is more concentrated, as I mentioned when I posted it, but so are their concerns. I think that map shows Clinton failed to demonstrate what she would do for the "flyover states" and they went for Trump.
(09-25-2017, 11:11 PM)Bobby Beg-B Wrote: I literally explain it in the post you have wiggoed. Everyone knows he won the election. Everyone knows that win was legitimate*. It's not even what the discussion is about.
(09-25-2017, 10:31 PM)Iniesta Wrote:
Can you please tell me what you find so difficult to understand about what I'm saying
You don't have to be the most popular candidate to win the election. You just need to right number of votes in the right places and trump obtained those.
It's not a popularity contest but if it was, trump would have lost.
(09-25-2017, 11:23 PM)Iniesta Wrote: Why are you saying "fucking fuck me" then?
Because you decided to ignore absolutely everything that had been said in the discussion to repeat the same irrelevant point about winning the election, which as I'd clarified was not what the discussion was about.
Assuming the info is correct it looks more like he's painting a desperate truthful picture which will need addressing. You're looking too deeply for something to beat him with. Of course you know he's sneering behind all that (probably) but like a lot of his stuff it's difficult to genuinely have a go at him on.
(09-25-2017, 10:20 PM)Fire Mixtape Wrote: I think the 1/4 thing is a bit fake too, all those non-voters made a decision not to vote for Clinton either, so to use them as a stick to beat Trump with is stupid.
IMO, they didn't vote for him, they didn't vote for her so neither of them won those voters over.
Now, we can get into Rep/Dem tactics to suppress votes in certain areas, etc.
The fact still remains, however, that those voters didn't feel strongly enough to vote for Trump, and that they remained on the board. He didn't win them over. Neither did Hillary.
What Trump did was extraordinary. It can't be said that he 'won over America' but he certainly won over a huge proportion of it and it was a remarkable achievement.