01-30-2017, 08:05 PM -
(01-30-2017, 06:42 PM)shaun.lawson Wrote: Well no, of course you weren't much of a fan. You wouldn't be much of a fan of any US President ever.
In the meantime, I continue to regard the idea as "people from the visa waiver program who've been to war zones since war/Islamist insurgency broke out in those war zones being subjected to heavier scrutiny = almost the same as all citizens of those countries, joint citizens of those countries, and legally documented migrants (including migrants already settled in the US - ie. who've already been extremely heavily vetted) being banned" as utterly absurd. It completely fails to understand either the refugee and immigration system or the nature of the war on terror; and the constant whining on here about Obama fails to understand politics itself.
"There it is…. That’s the ten-word answer my staff’s been looking for for two weeks. There it is. Ten-word answers can kill you in political campaigns. They’re the tip of the sword. Here’s my question: what are the next ten words of your answer? Your taxes are too high? So are mine. Give me the next ten words. How are we going to do it? Give me ten after that, I’ll drop out of the race right now.
Every once in a while… every once in a while, there’s a day with an absolute right and an absolute wrong, but those days almost always include body counts. Other than that, there aren’t very many un-nuanced moments in leading a country that’s way too big for ten words. I'm the President of the United States, not the President of the people who agree with me. And by the way, if the left has a problem with that, they should vote for somebody else".
- President Josiah Bartlet
No one is debating the severity of Trump's order. It is clearly extreme. You specifically drew attention to the list of countries and claimed it was compiled based on President Trump's personal business interests. This is false. The list was drawn up by the Obama administration.