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Donald Trump
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Snake Plissken
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07-10-2019, 04:25 AM -
He did say something to the effect of being able to shoot someone in broad daylight and not lose support and he's not wrong.

His core support aren't going to sway for anything, but they're not even close to a majority of the adult population (just under 63 million out of 250 million adults) and he did lose the popular vote by almost 3 million votes. The problem is the Electoral College, the Republicans have a pretty firm grip on all those shitey wee rural states where about 12 people live but their votes are worth more than places like California and New York on a per capita basis. Convince some daft racists in Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, and the likes to turn out and you're basically counting on the same few states deciding every election.
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07-14-2019, 07:52 PM -
Wee adolf trump at it again

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...reddit.com

Worth noting as well that his wife is probably the immigrant that single handedly costs the country the most money Heh
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07-14-2019, 08:23 PM -
I’ve just finished reading “If Only They Didn’t Speak English” by Jon Sopel. Great book covering Trump’s first 12 months in office and basically emphasising how it would be easier to understand the goings on of America if they spoke a foreign language, as you wouldn’t in any subconscious was assume any similarities between the US and the UK on the basis of speaking the same language.

Very good read and it’s pretty incredible/frightening to see the things that Trump did and got away with in only his first year alone Crowe
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07-14-2019, 08:29 PM -
Not even a dog whistle, just overtly racist.
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07-14-2019, 08:44 PM -
(07-14-2019, 08:29 PM)2NoDealFish Wrote: Not even a dog whistle, just overtly racist.

Was discussing this with my bursd tonight.

What does it actually take for people to turn on him? At what point did we just start accepting full on blatant racism again?

Obviously throughout modern politics there has been racist politicians and leaders but it’s usually all acted on a way that isn’t so just straight up outwardly racist. There’s been a lot of discussion about how this resembles early Nazi germany and it’s hard not to see it. It’s impossible to say which way it ends up as we live in a completely different age now but there are so many almost direct comparisons to draw.

Scary times, I genuinely thought he’d just sit and not do much when he was made president, I think a lot of people thought that.
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07-14-2019, 09:05 PM -
Morph this was always going to happen. People kid themselves on that he was a harmless buffoon, but that was honestly wishful thinking at best and delusional at worst. We’re entering a very dangerous period for American politics as the unthinkable now becomes so normalised people accept it. Pence in the concentration camps man Wow
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07-14-2019, 09:15 PM -
You'd like to think he only has a year left in office...
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07-14-2019, 09:17 PM -
I’ve decided that I think the election will be rigged, and that might be the last election Eek

Honestly can’t see a peaceful transition of power : Monty Ooh
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07-14-2019, 09:25 PM -
(07-14-2019, 09:05 PM)Don’t You Fucking DARE Wrote: Morph this was always going to happen. People kid themselves on that he was a harmless buffoon, but that was honestly wishful thinking at best and delusional at worst. We’re entering a very dangerous period for American politics as the unthinkable now becomes so normalised people accept it. Pence in the concentration camps man Wow
Yeah they’ve got bairns locked up in cages and not even trying to hide it. Having a wee safari around the camps like the people are there to be gawked at.

I don’t think I ever thought Trump was a harmless buffoon but I’ll admit I never realised the true evil cunt he is. I never thought he was daft like people tried to make out but thought he would be pegged back if he started trying to make such radical, extreme decisions. It just seems like people are either just happy to sit and let it all play out or just feel so helpless that they can’t do anything but just watch in horror.

I could be completely wrong here but has he been able to try this because he essentially had nothing to lose since he had no previous political career? Seems like he had everything to gain by taking this hardline super racist approach where he could just lie like fuck. If it backfired then he fucks a political career that was secondary to his business life anyway. Other politicians couldn’t really take the risk of playing it this way because for them it ruins their lives and careers. Now they know the public will lap it up and the ‘floodgates are open’. Dunno maybe that’s a really simplistic way of looking at it and could be talking complete shite Laugh
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07-14-2019, 10:43 PM -
Comparing Trump to the Nazi's is a bit heavy is it not  Warnock

He is a fucking idiot though.
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07-14-2019, 10:53 PM -
Don’t think so. People are comparing it to the very early stages and the way Hitler acted to gain support.

Don’t think anyone is saying Trump is the same as when Hitler had the SS rounding Jews up and rampaging around Europe with his army.
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07-14-2019, 11:04 PM -
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Took this yesterday  Monty Chuckle
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07-15-2019, 02:58 AM -
This sort of chat would have killed a political career stone dead a few years ago, now a sitting president is normalising it. Monty LewLew

I fear that a more competent but equally, if not more, malevolent person follows the path forged by Trump.
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07-15-2019, 07:19 AM -
It'd be hard to overstate just how bad those latest comments were - as 2na says, it's not just dog whistle politics but overt, thicko in the pub 'brown people are all foreign' racism.

One of the really harmful things that's happened with the rise of the internet has been how people becoming aware of Godwin's law has allowed any comparison to fascism to be laughed off as hysteria. Doesn't even matter that Godwin himself has said he sees the comparison as legitimate.

Whether or not the Trump regime should be compared to Nazi Germany is one thing, but at this point it's definitely fascism. That shouldn't even be up for debate.
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07-15-2019, 07:30 AM -
The world should be condemning that latest tweet, not just Americans. The concern is that people just brush this off as the talk of a nutcase, which in fairness is what it is, but he’s a dangerous, powerful nutcase who shouldn’t be anywhere near the position of power that he is. 

The images in those detention centres are disgusting and the rhetoric from Trump and Pence about it is horrendous.
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07-15-2019, 07:40 AM -
(07-15-2019, 07:30 AM)Charlie Kelly Wrote: The world should be condemning that latest tweet, not just Americans. The concern is that people just brush this off as the talk of a nutcase, which in fairness is what it is, but he’s a dangerous, powerful nutcase who shouldn’t be anywhere near the position of power that he is. 

The images in those detention centres are disgusting and the rhetoric from Trump and Pence about it is horrendous.

Totally. No chance of BoJo or any other Tory MPs saying anything though; they've got their careers to think about.
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07-15-2019, 07:42 AM -
They’ve got a trade deal to think about Monty Oh Well
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07-15-2019, 11:45 AM -
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...6099978240

It's a pretty basic troll, but "do something awful and then claim it's other side who are actually guilty of it" is darn effective.
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07-15-2019, 11:57 AM -
Israel feels abandoned by the US aye fucking right Monty Chuckle
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07-16-2019, 05:46 PM -
In an effort (understandably) to stop people noticing that he was running something akin to concentration camp he's tried to co-opt the media narrative. Usually he does this and the hit he takes is minor to the one he's avoided, but this one doesn't seem to be going so well.



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