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Tattoos
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07-28-2015, 02:45 PM -
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Nothing wrong with Phil Collins 2na. Muggy
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07-28-2015, 02:49 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 02:45 PM)2NaFish Wrote: At what age do people's look stop mattering, rog?

Not sure 2na, I'm not that shallow to think that now. Unless you're fat and ugly.
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07-28-2015, 02:50 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 02:45 PM)Picards Forehead Wrote: Nothing wrong with Phil Collins 2na. Muggy

You're right. He was great in who framed Roger Rabbit.

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07-28-2015, 02:52 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 02:49 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: Not sure 2na, I'm not that shallow to think that now. Unless you're fat and ugly.

One out of two ain't bad.

It just seems odd that you utterly discount that old people should have any concern about looking good.
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07-28-2015, 02:53 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 02:45 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: Nope. The idea of "getting a sleeve" is relatively new. I'm just curious as to what folk mean by it.

Tattoo that looks to them like a sleeve. Don't think anyone has set parameters or rules of sleeve/non sleeve.
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07-28-2015, 02:58 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 02:52 PM)2NaFish Wrote: One out of two ain't bad.

It just seems odd that you utterly discount that old people should have any concern about looking good.

I don't. I'd hate to think that when I'm old that I'll be hung up on how wrinkled my tats are. I figure I'll be too busy trying to hold on to my sanity, making sure I piss in the toilet, and doting on my grand kids.

(07-28-2015, 02:53 PM)S.J. Wrote: Tattoo that looks to them like a sleeve. Don't think anyone has set parameters or rules of sleeve/non sleeve.

I didn't expect you to understand, Scott. When talking of other fad tattoos, cartoon characters have been brought up, as well as tribal, the barbed wire etc. A sleeve isn't inherently a "style". So my question is, do people have issues with those that have tattoos covering their arms, or is it more these wee bams getting one large sleeve tattoo, or is it the style that these guys usually go for, that people don't like.
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07-28-2015, 03:00 PM -
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The 'old age' argument is weird because it makes the assumption that old people in 40 years' time will look like old people now. In 40 years' time old people with tattoos will barely elicit any raised eyebrows because all the young people who currently have tattoos will be old. Ergo there'll be loads of old people with tattoos. There are old people with tattoos now anyway: it's a practice which has been around for literally millennia. My granddad had tattoos.

On topic, I have three tattoos. The first is Wiggo as fuck: HMFC on my shoulders in Old English. Warnock I don't really regret it because given the location people will only ever see it if I want them to anyway, and it's not like I'm going to stop supporting Hearts, but I wouldn't get it now. The second is a poppy on my chest with 'to absent friends' underneath it. This actually has nothing to do with the armed forces: it's in memory of my dad, who died when I was 14, and the image represents a line of poetry that was read out at his funeral. I like it and I also like the third, which is the coat of arms of Edinburgh on my left calf and which I got before the first time I moved to France because I wanted something to remind me of home that wasn't some thistles and Saltires clichÃ. On the whole I'm happy with my tattoos.
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07-28-2015, 03:01 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 02:58 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: I didn't expect you to understand, Scott. When talking of other fad tattoos, cartoon characters have been brought up, as well as tribal, the barbed wire etc. A sleeve isn't inherently a "style". So my question is, do people have issues with those that have tattoos covering their arms, or is it more these wee bams getting one large sleeve tattoo, or is it the style that these guys usually go for, that people don't like.

No one had "sleeve" tattoos apart from actual tattoo artists or rockers with big green snakes going up their arm. Therefore now that it is mainstream, it is most definitely a fad.

What you fail to understand is that it's not the bams getting the tattoos now that's the problem, it's the fact that even the most mundane office worker has a sleeve tattoo now. Wink
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07-28-2015, 03:01 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 03:00 PM)Makween Wrote: The 'old age' argument is weird because it makes the assumption that old people in 40 years' time will look like old people now.  In 40 years' time old people with tattoos will barely elicit any raised eyebrows because all the young people who currently have tattoos will be old.  Ergo there'll be loads of old people with tattoos.  There are old people with tattoos now anyway: it's a practice which has been around for literally millennia.  My granddad had tattoos.

Nailed it.
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07-28-2015, 03:01 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 02:58 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: I don't. I'd hate to think that when I'm old that I'll be hung up on how wrinkled my tats are. I figure I'll be too busy trying to hold on to my sanity, making sure I piss in the toilet, and doting on my grand kids.

We all pray for your inevitable ghanja-cide to save you that horrific fate, m9
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07-28-2015, 03:05 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 03:00 PM)Makween Wrote: The 'old age' argument is weird because it makes the assumption that old people in 40 years' time will look like old people now. In 40 years' time old people with tattoos will barely elicit any raised eyebrows because all the young people who currently have tattoos will be old. Ergo there'll be loads of old people with tattoos. There are old people with tattoos now anyway: it's a practice which has been around for literally millennia. My granddad had tattoos.

That'd only be correct if it was true that people don't regret things when they are widespread. People have regrets, and most people will regret their tattoos. Not because tattoos are special, but precisely because they are no different to anything else that people like.

The fact that more people nowadays have tattoos only means that there will be more people who regret them when they're older.

My grandad had tattoos as well. He thought they were shit. They were.
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07-28-2015, 03:05 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 03:01 PM)S.J. Wrote: No one had "sleeve" tattoos apart from actual tattoo artists or rockers with big green snakes going up their arm. Therefore now that it is mainstream, it is most definitely a fad.

What you fail to understand is that it's not the bams getting the tattoos now that's the problem, it's the fact that even the most mundane office worker has a sleeve tattoo now.  Wink

You're still not getting it Scott, you're trying to comment on something you don't know enough about to comment on. I imagine that's tough for you so I'll give you some slack. I've deduced from your language that you mean large arm sized coherent tattoos. Thanks for indirectly clarifying.

I don't consider myself to have a sleeve, but I'm working on it.
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07-28-2015, 03:06 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 03:05 PM)2NaFish Wrote: That'd only be correct if it was true that people don't regret things when they are widespread. People have regrets, and most people will regret their tattoos. Not because tattoos are special, but precisely because they are no different to anything else that people like.

The fact that more people nowadays have tattoos only means that there will be more people who regret them when they're older.

My grandad had tattoos as well. He thought they were shit. They were.

What are you basing this on?
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07-28-2015, 03:08 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 03:06 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: What are you basing this on?

Sturgeon's Law.
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07-28-2015, 03:11 PM -
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In fact their popularity means that, probably, relatively more people will regret them. In the past it was people who were really in to tattoos (and bored sailors) who got them. These people are pretty likely to retain an affection for them.

Nowadays tattoos are widespread and people get the more whimsically and as part of a trend. The bigger the group, the less the likelihood of people sticking with it.
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07-28-2015, 03:11 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 03:05 PM)2NaFish Wrote: That'd only be correct if it was true that people don't regret things when they are widespread. People have regrets, and most people will regret their tattoos. Not because tattoos are special, but precisely because they are no different to anything else that people like.

The fact that more people nowadays have tattoos only means that there will be more people who regret them when they're older.

My grandad had tattoos as well. He thought they were shit. They were.

Most people I've seen making this argument have made it on the basis that 'you'll look ridiculous when you're old'.  My point was that that isn't going to be the case if tattoos are banalised to the extent that they are now. I also suspect that it's assumed that people will regret their tattoos because they look silly: not the case if tattoos are all over the place.

I imagine some people will regret their tattoos, but it won't be a big deal.  That was my point.  Don't see any point in discussing whether or not 'some people' will be 'most people' because you've already decided that it will, nothing I say will change your mind and I don't care enough to try.
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07-28-2015, 03:11 PM -
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Got the Dark Side Of The Moon ablum cover on the bottom of my leg.

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07-28-2015, 03:14 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 03:05 PM)Roger H. Sterling Wrote: You're still not getting it Scott, you're trying to comment on something you don't know enough about to comment on. I imagine that's tough for you so I'll give you some slack. I've deduced from your language that you mean large arm sized coherent tattoos. Thanks for indirectly clarifying.

I don't consider myself to have a sleeve, but I'm working on it.

If you are internally happy with your "non sleeve" tattoos on your arm in 6-7 years time, then kudos and more power to you. However, you can't control the rest of society moving with fashion norms and gradually thinking they look shit and outdated.

But as you said, you have sleeve tattoos which don't meet your own subjective, pre-conditioned parameters of what "faddy" sleeve tattoos constitute, so you are fine. Sound
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07-28-2015, 03:14 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 03:11 PM)Makween Wrote: Most people I've seen making this argument have made it on the basis that 'you'll look ridiculous when you're old'.  My point was that that isn't going to be the case if tattoos are banalised to the extent that they are now. I also suspect that it's assumed that people will regret their tattoos because they look silly: not the case if tattoos are all over the place.

I imagine some people will regret their tattoos, but it won't be a big deal.  That was my point.  Don't see any point in discussing whether or not 'some people' will be 'most people' because you've already decided that it will, nothing I say will change your mind and I don't care enough to try.

I don't anyone ever said it'll be a big deal. By comparing it to a phil collins album i kinda made the opposite point.

Most people will, because tattoos are no different from any other form of art except that they're permanent.
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07-28-2015, 03:14 PM -
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(07-28-2015, 03:11 PM)Makween Wrote: Most people I've seen making this argument have made it on the basis that 'you'll look ridiculous when you're old'.  My point was that that isn't going to be the case if tattoos are banalised to the extent that they are now.  I also suspect that it's assumed that people will regret their tattoos because they look silly: not the case if tattoos are all over the place.

I imagine some people will regret their tattoos, but it won't be a big deal.  That was my point.  Don't see any point in discussing whether or not 'some people' will be 'most people' because you've already decided that it will, nothing I say will change your mind and I don't care enough to try.

Really don't like agreeing with you, but this is spot on.

Will folk regret their permanent tattoos? Undoubtedly. Should that concern anyone else, or put anyone off from every getting one? No.



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