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Chrambo
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07-12-2015, 02:50 PM -
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Just watched highlights of last nights fight as I was mangled when I watched it live, was a good fight but didn't quite live up to the hype.

IIRC a few of the undercard fights were crackers so will watch them again.
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07-12-2015, 02:53 PM -
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Got link to the McGregor fight?
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07-12-2015, 03:01 PM -
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Few copies on youtube
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07-12-2015, 03:08 PM -
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Not that big on UFC personally but I've been following McGregor's last few fights, the guy is a great fighter and took quite a bit of damage last night, was impressed by his punching after spending several minutes on the ground taking elbows to the face.

For me, the three 5 minute round thing is what puts me off. Too often fights descend in to a homoerotic tumble on the ground, I like the idea of MMA but these long rounds appear to be there because if it was five 3 minute rounds it would be a lot more standing and trading and the 'ground & pound' guys wouldn't have much of a chance.
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07-12-2015, 03:09 PM -
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Cant find one. Link plz
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07-12-2015, 03:34 PM -
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(07-12-2015, 03:08 PM)Donald Dank Wrote: Not that big on UFC personally but I've been following McGregor's last few fights, the guy is a great fighter and took quite a bit of damage last night, was impressed by his punching after spending several minutes on the ground taking elbows to the face.

For me, the three 5 minute round thing is what puts me off. Too often fights descend in to a homoerotic tumble on the ground, I like the idea of MMA but these long rounds appear to be there because if it was five 3 minute rounds it would be a lot more standing and trading and the 'ground & pound' guys wouldn't have much of a chance.

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The entire basis of MMA is that it's a mixture of styles.  If you want to watch striking then kickboxing disciplines cater for that.  Nothing would be altered if round length was changed because the fact that it involves both striking and grappling styles is the whole point of MMA.
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07-12-2015, 03:36 PM -
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^^ Connor makgregor up in here
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07-12-2015, 03:38 PM -
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I didn't even realise MacGregor is a Celtic man till be got that flag out at the end.
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07-12-2015, 03:40 PM -
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(07-12-2015, 03:36 PM)Morph Wrote: ^^ Connor makgregor up in here

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Don't actually like MMA much myself, to be honest, either to do or to watch. Grappling is boring to watch and sweaty and unpleasant to take part in. By contrast I love striking, which is why I train in/watch Muay Thai and K1. It's not to do with the length of the rounds, it's to do with what MMA is. Warnock
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07-12-2015, 04:35 PM -
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(07-12-2015, 03:34 PM)Makween Wrote: Cornette

The entire basis of MMA is that it's a mixture of styles. If you want to watch striking then kickboxing disciplines cater for that.  Nothing would be altered if round length was changed because the fact that it involves both striking and grappling styles is the whole point of MMA.

Cornette

Cheers for that Mak. There's plenty of room for striking in UFC, I'm pretty sure McGregor is muay thai trained or some other varient of kickboxing. I don't need to be lectured by you on what MMA consists of as I'm well aware of it. My point was that the way UFC is structed leads to too much time on the ground for my liking.

Saying that nothing would change as a result of changing round times clearly shows you know even less than me about MMA. Laugh
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07-12-2015, 04:40 PM -
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^ rustled ^
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07-12-2015, 04:51 PM -
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(07-12-2015, 04:35 PM)Donald Dank Wrote: Cornette

Cheers for that Mak. There's plenty of room for striking in UFC, I'm pretty sure McGregor is muay thai trained or some other varient of kickboxing. I don't need to be lectured by you on what MMA consists of as I'm well aware of it. My point was that the way UFC is structed leads to too much time on the ground for my liking.

Saying that nothing would change as a result of changing round times clearly shows you know even less than me about MMA.  Laugh

Warnock

You're absolutely talking out of your arse. Every single MMA fighter is trained in striking:that is a truth that anyone involved in MMA knows (as an aside, Muay Thai isn't a 'varient [sic] of kickboxing': it's a martial art which is literally centuries-old, whereas kickboxing was born fairly recently, originally as a hybridisation of full contact karate and Muay Thai). It's so obvious that I didn't mention it because only someone who knew nothing about MMA would see it as any kind of revelation.

The way that 'UFC' is structured (which, btw, isn't specific to the UFC, which is one specific promotion within the sport of MMA) is no more conducive to grappling than it is to striking. That's a totally nonsensical point. The scoring system arguably favours grapplers who like to kill the fight against the cage wall, but that's an entirely separate debate. At lower level MMA, particularly rookie level, rounds are shorter; if anything there's more grappling.

I didn't say that nothing would change as a result of changing round times, but that it wouldn't result in less grappling. The very notion that it would is laughable: grappling, like striking, is an integral part of MMA. A large proportion of fighters come from grappling backgrounds before making the transition to MMA, and the idea that if shorter rounds were introduced they'd stop using their primary skillset is laughable.

I wouldn't claim to be an expert on MMA, but I have trained in the sport and sparred with professional fighters. I've got a reasonable idea of what's involved. How about you?
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07-12-2015, 04:53 PM -
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07-12-2015, 04:54 PM -
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Jimmies rustled all over the shop on this thread
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07-12-2015, 06:42 PM -
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(07-12-2015, 04:51 PM)Makween Wrote: Warnock

You're absolutely talking out of your arse.  Every single MMA fighter is trained in striking:that is a truth that anyone involved in MMA knows (as an aside, Muay Thai isn't a 'varient [sic] of kickboxing': it's a martial art which is literally centuries-old, whereas kickboxing was born fairly recently, originally as a hybridisation of full contact karate and Muay Thai).  It's so obvious that I didn't mention it because only someone who knew nothing about MMA would see it as any kind of revelation.

The way that 'UFC' is structured (which, btw, isn't specific to the UFC, which is one specific promotion within the sport of MMA) is no more conducive to grappling than it is to striking.  That's a totally nonsensical point.  The scoring system arguably favours grapplers who like to kill the fight against the cage wall, but that's an entirely separate debate.  At lower level MMA, particularly rookie level, rounds are shorter; if anything there's more grappling.

I didn't say that nothing would change as a result of changing round times, but that it wouldn't result in less grappling.  The very notion that it would is laughable: grappling, like striking, is an integral part of MMA.  A large proportion of fighters come from grappling backgrounds before making the transition to MMA, and the idea that if shorter rounds were introduced they'd stop using their primary skillset is laughable.

I wouldn't claim to be an expert on MMA, but I have trained in the sport and sparred with professional fighters.  I've got a reasonable idea of what's involved.  How about you?

Well you appear to be claiming to be an expert given that every post you've made is an attempted lecture that has totally missed the point of what I'm saying. So obsessed with proving that I'm "taking out my arse" (which I do on every subject, don't even pretend I don't) you're not even reading what I say properly.

I said I think he's trained in muay thai or some variant, not that muay thai was a variant of kickboxing. For a literary expert your powers of comprehension are severely lacking, a little more time spent on that and less picking up grammatical errors would serve you well. It's not an entirely separate debate because it is literally the point I made in the first place that you felt the need to pick me up on, and it's lead to you rambling a load of shite at me in an attempt to prove your knowledge on a subject that is clearly poor. I don't claim to be an expert on MMA and have not trained in a strike based martial art at any point in my life, but clearly a few kickboxing lessons hasn't given you any stronger basis in this argument.

Again, lecturing on what UFC is and telling me how it's different to other forms of MMA. No shit mate, I say as much in my post but you're too busy looking for an argument that you forgot to read. UFC is more favourable to grappling which is the point I was making, if you had ever watched Pride Fights you'd have known that they would occasionally switch to five three minute rounds for certain fights as this encouraged more trading which is clearly a better spectacle. That is the reason for me saying I don't enjoy UFC. You tell me I'm talking out my arse about round times impacting on the fight, but then say exactly what I am saying by agreeing that longer rounds allow for more grappling and ground & pound. You've not proven me wrong at all, you've just said I was wrong and then elaborated on the point I was actually making.

Never once said that grapplers should stop grappling, only that shorter rounds would allow for enforced breaks in the grappling, which is quite franky gay as fuck and therefore encourage more trading which is more enjoyable. If you want to have a discussion on how you enjoy watching men roll around with each other on the floor for 4 and a half minutes then start a thread on it, I certainly won't be joining.
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07-12-2015, 06:54 PM -
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Depends which men tbh Pinilla
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07-12-2015, 06:56 PM -
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(07-12-2015, 06:42 PM)Donald Dank Wrote: Well you appear to be claiming to be an expert given that every post you've made is an attempted lecture that has totally missed the point of what I'm saying. So obsessed with proving that I'm "taking out my arse" (which I do on every subject, don't even pretend I don't) you're not even reading what I say properly.

I said I think he's trained in muay thai or some variant, not that muay thai was a variant of kickboxing. For a literary expert your powers of comprehension are severely lacking, a little more time spent on that and less picking up grammatical errors would serve you well. It's not an entirely separate debate because it is literally the point I made in the first place that you felt the need to pick me up on, and it's lead to you rambling a load of shite at me in an attempt to prove your knowledge on a subject that is clearly poor. I don't claim to be an expert on MMA and have not trained in a strike based martial art at any point in my life, but clearly a few kickboxing lessons hasn't given you any stronger basis in this argument.

Again, lecturing on what UFC is and telling me how it's different to MMA. No shit mate, I say as much in my post but you're too busy looking for an argument that you forgot to read. UFC is more favourable to grappling which is the point I was making, if you had ever watch Pride Fights you'd have known that they would occasionally switch to five three minute rounds for certain fights as this encouraged more trading which is clearly a better spectacle. That is the reason for me saying I don't enjoy UFC. You tell me I'm talking out my arse about round times impacting on the fight, but then say exactly what I am saying by agreeing that longer rounds allow for more grappling and ground & pound. You've not proven me wrong at all, you've just said I was wrong and then elaborated on the point I was actually making.

Never once said that grapplers should stop grappling, only that shorter rounds would allow for enforced breaks in the grappling, which is quite franky gay as fuck and therefore encourage more trading which is more enjoyable. If you want to have a discussion on how you enjoy watching men roll around with each other on the floor for 4 and a half minutes then start a thread on it, I certainly won't be joining.

Homophobic cunt.

Hope makgregor round house kicks you.
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(07-12-2015, 06:56 PM)Morph Wrote: Homophobic cunt.

Hope makgregor round house kicks you.

Culture moves too fast m8, apparently you can't even critisise things for being soft core gay porn without being a bigot.
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07-12-2015, 07:05 PM -
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Dank with a bee in his bonnet about being picked up for grammatical errors the same day he neggies me for a typo Wow Warnock
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07-12-2015, 07:17 PM -
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(07-12-2015, 07:05 PM)Francis Begbie Wrote: Dank with a bee in his bonnet about being picked up for grammatical errors the same day he neggies me for a typo Wow Warnock

Wasn't a typo though was it? I was neggying for you spelling it like a cretin. Laugh



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