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General Hearts Related Pish
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10-11-2021, 10:33 AM -
Would like to see evidence of anyone calling him a cult hero
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10-11-2021, 10:39 AM -
(10-11-2021, 10:33 AM)Socko Wrote: Would like to see evidence of anyone calling him a cult hero

100% you'll find this on kickback if you have the patience to scroll through historic threads from his time at Hearts. See also Don Cowie (and insert any other shite player that does a few positive things in a game)


Edit:  https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php...alty-king/

Quote:First name on the team sheet for me now. Absolutely crucial. Effort, skill, and absolutely loves the Hearts now. Cult hero status for years awaits.
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10-11-2021, 10:44 AM -
He was such a confidence player Warnock He would go on great runs for 2-3 games and then disappear again.
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10-11-2021, 10:47 AM -
(10-11-2021, 10:44 AM)Picards Forehead Wrote: He was such a confidence player Warnock He would go on great runs for 2-3 games and then disappear again.

This would be more accurate in describing players like David Templeton, Salius Mikoluinas etc...

By "he would go on great runs for 2-3 games" you mean he would do a couple of positive things in a match - actually do his job for a couple of games before going back to mediocrity?

I do think he can play, but he needs to find a position. Hopefully he's done that now.
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10-11-2021, 10:55 AM -
(10-11-2021, 10:39 AM)Hung S.J. Wrote: 100% you'll find this on kickback if you have the patience to scroll through historic threads from his time at Hearts. See also Don Cowie (and insert any other shite player that does a few positive things in a game)


Edit:  https://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php...alty-king/

He'd just scored a pen at Easter road tbf  Warnock overall I guarantee there's screeds more abuse aimed at him on kickback than anything close to praise. In my experience they all hated him a lot for a long time until he settled a wee bit under Stendel. The guy was booed onto and off the park for about 6 month. 

Do agree with the point about coddled academy players in general but he'd been released and come back from the Nike academy so think he's a different case.
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10-11-2021, 10:55 AM -
(10-11-2021, 10:33 AM)Socko Wrote: Would like to see evidence of anyone calling him a cult hero

https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/...EYQng&s=19

The replies are the usual 'always welcome at Tynecastle' tropes Heh
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10-11-2021, 10:58 AM -
(10-11-2021, 10:55 AM)Socko Wrote: He'd just scored a pen at Easter road tbf  Warnock overall I guarantee there's screeds more abuse aimed at him on kickback than anything close to praise. In my experience they all hated him a lot for a long time until he settled a wee bit under Stendel. The guy was booed onto and off the park for about 6 month. 

Do agree with the point about coddled academy players in general but he'd been released and come back from the Nike academy so think he's a different case.

You asked for evidence I gave it. It's not just the pen he's referring to. The boy is describing the player in general, kidding himself on saying "he is absolutely crucial" to Hearts, when reality is you would never give him a second thought the moment the door hit his arse on the way out, and so it proved.
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10-11-2021, 11:05 AM -
Clare will mainly be remembered for scoring a few penalties and also giving them away just about every week when he played right back Warnock
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10-11-2021, 11:11 AM -
Clare seemed like a good guy. He came into hearts at a bad time and wasn’t a good place for any player to try kick on especially if the pressure was having a big effect on him. I don’t really think many at all would’ve viewed him as a cult hero mind, he improved a bit towards the end but it was obvious it probably wasn’t going to work out for him here. I do remember him getting booed all the time as well, pretty shan because it all came from him having a daft wee nickname for himself and Levein saying he’s the next Delli Ali, he probably wasn’t any worse than anyone else in the team.

Hope he does well in his career going forward.
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10-11-2021, 11:12 AM -
(10-11-2021, 10:47 AM)Hung S.J. Wrote: This would be more accurate in describing players like David Templeton, Salius Mikoluinas etc...

By "he would go on great runs for 2-3 games" you mean he would do a couple of positive things in a match - actually do his job for a couple of games before going back to mediocrity?

I do think he can play, but he needs to find a position. Hopefully he's done that now.

Aye you're probably right Warnock He scored 14 goals in 75 games (63 starts) but i think about half of them were pens or pre season dross. I think towards the end when we played him in a settled position he was starting to look better.
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10-11-2021, 11:21 AM -
(10-11-2021, 11:12 AM)Picards Forehead Wrote: Aye you're probably right Warnock He scored 14 goals in 75 games (63 starts) but i think about half of them were pens or pre season dross. I think towards the end when we played him in a settled position he was starting to look better.
That’s not really his fault either though that he couldn’t get settled. At some point you’re going to need to let a player settle and it seemed to take ages for Clare to get that and by then it was too late anyway.

He was a really easy option for manager to have a bit of a hole in the team then just expect Clare to play there after playing different positions the weeks before. Not good enough for where we want to be but that entire time at hearts must’ve been murder to be involved in.
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10-11-2021, 11:35 AM -
(10-11-2021, 11:21 AM)Morph Wrote: That’s not really his fault either though that he couldn’t get settled.  At some point you’re going to need to let a player settle and it seemed to take ages for Clare to get that and by then it was too late anyway.

He was a really easy option for manager to have a bit of a hole in the team then just expect Clare to play there after playing different positions the weeks before.  Not good enough for where we want to be but that entire time at hearts must’ve been murder to be involved in.

I wasn't trying to say it was his fault Levein kept moving him about Monty Umm

I actually think he'd do quite well in this team. Would probably swap him for Walker May Bee
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10-11-2021, 11:39 AM -
Ik the irrational hate for Walker but love for Clare. Unreal Warnock
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10-11-2021, 11:42 AM -
(10-11-2021, 11:39 AM)Hung S.J. Wrote: Ik the irrational hate for Walker but love for Clare. Unreal Warnock

Love for Clare? Warnock Where have I said anything more than "he was occasionally alright"?

and Walker is finnish Wtf
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10-11-2021, 11:43 AM -
(10-11-2021, 11:11 AM)Morph Wrote: Clare seemed like a good guy.  He came into hearts at a bad time and wasn’t a good place for any player to try kick on especially if the pressure was having a big effect on him.  I don’t really think many at all would’ve viewed him as a cult hero mind, he improved a bit towards the end but it was obvious it probably wasn’t going to work out for him here.  I do remember him getting booed all the time as well, pretty shan because it all came from him having a daft wee nickname for himself and Levein saying he’s the next Delli Ali, he probably wasn’t any worse than anyone else in the team.

Hope he does well in his career going forward.

Good post, Morph. Reality is it's hard to judge, based predominatly on the environment at the time. You realluy have to be an exceptional player to have any profound effect on a shite team. He wasn't. A decent, athletic carboard cut-out Academy player that was never going to cut it at any upper level.

I'll only ever remember him by his equaliser up at Perth. Great live moment. Piggy
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10-11-2021, 11:51 AM -
(10-11-2021, 11:42 AM)Picards Forehead Wrote: Love for Clare? Warnock Where have I said anything more than "he was occasionally alright"?

and Walker is finnish  Wtf

But it does some Hearts fans up, the disdain for Jamie as a 'has-been' while giving the 'never was' folk a free ride.
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10-11-2021, 12:15 PM -
(10-11-2021, 11:35 AM)Picards Forehead Wrote: I wasn't trying to say it was his fault Levein kept moving him about  Monty Umm

I actually think he'd do quite well in this team. Would probably swap him for Walker May Bee

I was just adding to what you were saying, not disagreeing APRant
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10-11-2021, 12:22 PM -
(10-11-2021, 10:04 AM)Hung S.J. Wrote: You'll of course have all the folk on kickback saying - aww he was brilliant, cult hero, got an unjustifiably hard time etc... sorry, he was never making it at Hearts - you could see it in his eyes. Rabbit in headlights stuff. In his early 20s and didn't even have "a position". Just floated about midfield a bit lost, or pissing about in right back.

A certain poster on JKB (prolific poster) stated Clare would play at a higher level than Hickey...

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10-11-2021, 01:30 PM -
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/s...Qj1Nx537Jg

Big Bobby Zlamal digging himself a deeper and deeper hole Warnock
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10-11-2021, 01:35 PM -
(10-11-2021, 01:30 PM)Mikey Wrote: https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/s...Qj1Nx537Jg

Big Bobby Zlamal digging himself a deeper and deeper hole  Warnock

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