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The Greatest Fans in the World
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02-24-2021, 10:51 AM -
That’s actually a good shout AP



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02-24-2021, 10:52 AM -
(02-24-2021, 10:37 AM)Zizou Wrote: Na, the manager of Belgium doesn't go to the SPL. He can walk into a prem job based on rep alone. Think there was chat of Barca not long ago.

Maloney as manager could be possible.

Think Steve Clarke after the euros is a nap tbh.

The Barca chat could start again as Koeman is hardly setting the heather on fire is he?

I don’t think Martinez will want the Celtic job, Maloney might fancy it, but I don’t see why you’d want to quit managing a top international team like Belgium to be involved in the mother of all clear outs at Parkhead.

They’ve got a squad of players who are either on loan or are in the final year of their contracts and desperate to go elsewhere, a new Chief Executive coming in and supposedly a new sporting director?

They also don’t have the millions and millions in the bank that they did, their half year accounts showed their losses and that wasn’t even taking into account that they’ll have a harder shift trying to qualify for the Champions League if they manage to finish second of course.

Cheltic are a busted flush at the minute and only the unemployed or desperate would be considering it as an option.

I also can’t see Clarke wanting to set foot in the whole sectarian cesspit that is working for Cheltic, especially when he said it was one of his main reasons for leaving Scottish Football as a player.
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02-24-2021, 10:57 AM -
Just when Moyes is hot property again too jjay
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02-24-2021, 11:03 AM -
Barca wouldn’t be going anywhere near Martinez if they had a pot to piss in. Is his club management record not very average? I’m sure he got chased out of Everton.

Have any managers got big club jobs on the back of what they’ve done at international level in the last decade? Might be missing an obvious one but can’t think of any - unless Belgium win the Euros I don’t see him getting a bigger job than Celtic tbh (he could be perfectly happy in the international game mind you).

It’s probably not that bad a proposition for an up and coming manager really - the pressure of the ten is gone and they’ve collapsed so spectacularly that there has to be either a lot of cash to spend or no expectations. They could probably attract someone quite decent, but recent odds suggest there’s a higher chance they go for an absolute diddy jjay
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02-24-2021, 11:49 AM -
Aye, this seems to rest on whether you think Martinez is any great shakes.

iirc he does have an attractive style of play and for sure he now has more experience working with elite players which makes him a manager that top clubs might consider.

However, to me he's also just the guy that relegated Wigan and got chased from Everton for not being able to be as succesful as Moysey.

(did win a cup with Wigan, tbf).


He's either the next incarnation of Pep Guardiola or Paul Jewell depending on how you view him. He certainly landed on his feet when Belgium wanted to think outside the box after Marc Wilmots.
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02-24-2021, 11:56 AM -
Every time the tim job is available they talk about all these high profile names that never really come to fruition.

The only time they’ve impressed recently with a big name is Rodgers and a lot of that will be down to being a boyhood fan. I don’t think they have anywhere near the appeal they think they do and with a team that is needing a huge overhaul that’s not going to do them any favours.

Steve Clarke is probably a realistic shout.  Could see them going down the hun route and giving an ex top player a chance as well.
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02-24-2021, 12:05 PM -
Should go for Shelley Kerr.
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02-24-2021, 12:06 PM -
They'll link themselves with Benitez and Eddie Howe, and end up with Jack Ross Warnock
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02-24-2021, 12:19 PM -
Think if you look at their last 5 appointments 1 has been from within, 1 from Hibs, 1 from West Brom, 1 from Stromsgodset and the exception of Rogers.

Just can't see what would attract Martinez to that job. It's not like he's coming from a position where he's just been sacked and has to build his rep. I don't even particularly rate him but he's managing at the elite level of international football.
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02-24-2021, 12:24 PM -
They'll be giving John Kennedy an "audition" for this in the same way Budge gave MacPhee one when Levein got the shove. If he does well between now and the end of the season, they'll give him it full time. If he makes a complete hash of it, they'll punt him at the end of the season and bring someone else in.

I can't see them bringing in any manager with a high reputation because they'd have to throw serious money at it and their accounts don't tell the story of a club with pots of money to burn on endless transfers and wages.
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02-24-2021, 12:34 PM -
Martinez, Benitez, Clarke, Lampard, Howe.

Try Kennedy ya shower of cunts Upye
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02-24-2021, 12:38 PM -
I actually wouldn’t be surprised at Lampard going there
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02-24-2021, 12:44 PM -
(02-24-2021, 12:38 PM)Morph Wrote: I actually wouldn’t be surprised at Lampard going there

I wouldn't be surprised to see them getting Lampard or Howe but if Kennedy does well til the end of the season they could see him as a cheap gamble rather than an expensive one.
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02-24-2021, 12:47 PM -
The OF is a good wee ego trip for managers to make them feel big time. If it wasn't for Rangers, Gerrard would be managing Sheffield United or Brighton at best.

In that regard Lampard would be a good shout.
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02-24-2021, 12:50 PM -
Does Lampard actually want another management gig? He’s already had his dream job, surely a more comfortable life to do Super Sunday once a week or a champions league spot on BT.
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02-24-2021, 12:55 PM -
(02-24-2021, 12:47 PM)S.J. Wrote: The OF is a good wee ego trip for managers to make them feel big time. If it wasn't for Rangers, Gerrard would be managing Sheffield United or Brighton at best.

In that regard Lampard would be a good shout.

Not sure that’s true at this stage in terms of Gerrard.  Granted he was never going to walk into managing Liverpool right away but he’s delivered on the most important thing which was to stop a very consistent celtic team getting 10iar and the performances he’s getting out them in Europe is very impressive.

He’s proving himself to be a very capable manager and his next move after rangers will be a good one I reckon.  Based on his success in Europe + his reputation from his playing days.
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02-24-2021, 12:57 PM -
(02-24-2021, 12:55 PM)Morph Wrote: Not sure that’s true at this stage in terms of Gerrard.  Granted he was never going to walk into managing Liverpool right away but he’s delivered on the most important thing which was to stop a very consistent celtic team getting 10iar and the performances he’s getting out them in Europe is very impressive.

He’s proving himself to be a very capable manager and his next move after rangers will be a good one I reckon.  Based on his success in Europe + his reputation from his playing days.

Aye but he hadn't got the Rangers job he'd be at Middlesbrough or something the now. he wouldn't have waltzed in to a top job.
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02-24-2021, 12:59 PM -
(02-24-2021, 12:57 PM)Shteve Wrote: Aye but he hadn't got the Rangers job he'd be at Middlesbrough or something the now. he wouldn't have waltzed in to a top job.

Maybe I’m reading Scott wrong, I do agree he would’ve had to have taken a team like Derby similar to what Lampard did if he didn’t go to rangers.

I got the impression he meant that just now he’s overhyped because of rangers and bottom of the prem relegation fodder is his level.


He got into management 3 years ago. It took Lampard a year at derby and he got his hands on one of the top teams in England. Don’t think he would’ve been at one of those teams for long based on how he’s done with the huns.
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02-24-2021, 01:06 PM -
(02-24-2021, 12:59 PM)Morph Wrote: Maybe I’m reading Scott wrong, I do agree he would’ve had to have taken a team like Derby similar to what Lampard did if he didn’t go to rangers.

I got the impression he meant that just now he’s overhyped because of rangers and bottom of the prem relegation fodder is his level.


He got into management 3 years ago.  It took Lampard a year at derby and he got his hands on one of the top teams in England.  Don’t think he would’ve been at one of those teams for long based on how he’s done with the huns.


Yeah, I meant as his first job.

I think he's proven himself very well at Rangers and I'm interested to see if he can go all the way in the europa league this year. He's proven himself to be a very good manager. Leeds or Liverpool his next stop, imo.
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02-24-2021, 01:14 PM -
Do you think it is a good idea for these legends at their clubs to go straight in for the managers job ASAP?

I’d like to see Gerrard prove himself at a club similar to Leeds before taking on a team that should be competing for league titles and champions leagues.  I get the appeal of getting someone like that in, if it works out then it’s an amazing story to have your captain come back and win things but at the same time it frustrates me when ex players get huge opportunities without properly proving themselves first.

I’m not sure what he’s done with rangers qualifies him to manage a top 4 team yet, although wouldn’t be surprised if that’s his next move either.  If he stays at rangers for 3/4 years and wins a lot then maybe different story but I don’t think he’s at that level just now.
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