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9/11
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Coppercrutch
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09-16-2017, 08:15 AM -
(09-16-2017, 08:09 AM)Gregory Wrote: Ah right. Thought it was a conspiracy theory.

Well I think it probably is as well. And one that's difficult to argue with.

So much very strange stuff re. this event. 

What it all points to I don't know. I'm certain the narrative we have been given is not the entire truth though.
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09-16-2017, 11:13 AM -
Watched a few videos about all this earlier.

The main gripe seems to be that a plane should have been smashed to bits on impact with the building - newton's law and all that. But that supposes that the plane impacted with the concrete blocks of the building, does it not?

Did the towers not have large glass windows (like a shitey budget version of oor glass curtain? Smug )?

A lot of weight it placed on the fact that there appears to be an object attached to the bottom of the second aircraft - that shouldn't be on a commercial aircraft. There's commercial and military pilots who say it's most likely a military craft/drone.

Lots of weird nonsense on YouTube about it - can see how you'd get drawn into it. Thinking about becoming a truther tbh Shitwine
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09-16-2017, 12:36 PM -
It's usually the weak willed, easily led that get drawn in and start believing ridiculous theories over catastrophes that happen in our daily lives.
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09-16-2017, 02:31 PM -
I thought all the footage I'd seen did show the plane being effectively vaporised on impact?


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09-16-2017, 03:56 PM -
(09-16-2017, 12:36 PM)Dexter Wrote: It's usually the weak willed, easily led that get drawn in and start believing ridiculous theories over catastrophes that happen in our daily lives.

What's more ridiculous ? The accepted narrative of various versions of alternative theories ?

They're all pretty nuts to be honest.
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11-02-2019, 11:32 PM -
Got baw deep into that David icke true Geordie podcast last night.

99% positive 9/11 was an inside job jjay
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11-03-2019, 02:15 AM -
(09-11-2017, 06:23 PM)shaun.lawson Wrote: I was at LSE. The deadline for my Master's dissertation was the following Monday, 17 September. And for about the only time in my entire life, I'd got myself organised, written it up faster than I anticipated, and handed it in that morning. Degree finished.

So I was full of the joys of early autumn, went for lunch, then went back into the library and got chatting to my friend Lena*. Whereupon she glanced at the computer screen, and suddenly, her voice started shaking. "Shaun - two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center".

Quickly, I decided it was best to get out of there, pronto. If they'd attacked New York, why wouldn't they attack London too? On the walk to Holborn tube, I swear everyone looked like they were thinking that. Then as I descended the escalator, I also thought: "Shaun, should you be going underground at a time like this?"

On the platform, I started fretting. 10 days earlier, I'd spoken with another friend from the course, Amy - who was from New York, had been jobhunting, and had told me she was having an interview with Cantor Fitzgerald. I worried about her all the way home - and when I got back, was so relieved when she picked up the phone. She hadn't got the job. If she had, she'd have been in One World Trade Center that morning. Cantor Fitzgerald had offices between the 101st and 105th floor, and lost 658 of their 960 employees. Sob

I rang around other friends both in London and the US - then don't think I slept for the next 72 hours. It was the memorial service on the Friday which got me. I'd not cried before that, and was in absolute floods throughout. Those poor, poor people. Those poor, poor families.

On the night of 9/11, I sat chatting with my Dad, and we were both convinced (wrongly) that someone had put a missile up Flight 93. There was so much panic in those first couple of hours. No-one knew what was going on; the US seemed like it had been taken over by terrorists, the news kept reporting possible new attacks, and we both figured that whoever was responsible for American air security had probably taken the "better be safe than sorry" option with UA93. Other than that though, I've never had any truck with any conspiracy theories: which I find grotesquely offensive, even if they're believed by some of the bereaved families.

9/11 was our JFK moment. There's no question it changed history. On a personal level, it also changed how American friends interacted with me, and my fellow Brits and Europeans. It made them wary, scared, paranoid at times... made them feel like their whole way of life was under attack. A mindset which, sadly, was what led to Iraq.

Yet in historical terms, I'm not sure it was more significant than either 9/11/73, which Mak rightly mentioned; or for that matter, in UK date style, 9/11/89: the day the wall came down and Europe was at last reunited. But I don't think there'll be any other experience in my life which'll result in me inwardly panicking whenever I hear an aeroplane flying past for months afterwards; nor which will have me feeling angry, raging almost, if I see people laughing and having a normal conversation in the immediate days afterwards. Yet that was how it felt. The whole world seemed to have been turned upside down.

*Lena and I have discussed it several times since. Apropros of nothing, she went on to become Nick Clegg's Head of Communications and is now an OBE.

RIP Lena x

Cab't believe she perished in 9/11
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11-03-2019, 09:27 AM -
tl;dr. Monty Oh Well
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11-03-2019, 09:30 AM -
Shaun's internal conversations Warnock
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11-03-2019, 12:18 PM -
Building 7 was the real target. And when it didn't collapse when the 2 towers went down, they had to set it on fire.
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11-03-2019, 12:23 PM -
(11-03-2019, 12:18 PM)Felix Wrote: Building 7 was the real target.  And when it didn't collapse when the 2 towers went down, they had to set it on fire.

I still think the overall conspiracy about it being an inside job is a lot of shite but if what that icke said about building 7 can be confirmed then it’s very weird.

The official explanation of the building collapsing was an office furnishing fire and it was never included in the official investigation into 9/11. He said a building like that has never before or after collapsed from a similar fire.

I love reading about conspiracies though, some of the theories on things are great Laugh If that icke was saying stuff about building 7 in isolation then you could probably see how what he’s saying has a bit of weight, but then he goes on about how lizard people are running the world so Warnock
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11-03-2019, 12:55 PM -
3 buildings essentially collapsed from fires.

Building 7 supposedly housed some NSA department with some damaging papers, whilst you could look at the main towers as having just been insured for billions by their owner, signed off by the US government.
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11-03-2019, 12:56 PM -
For the avoidance of doubt - David Icke thinks most of us are lizard people with human skin on.

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11-03-2019, 01:10 PM -
These guys are absolute bams but there is either truth in some of what they say and they run with it and get carried away, or they cast a wide net with ridic theories and some of them just happen to be right.

All the conspiracy guys were going on about the royal paedo rings and think Alex Jones went on about an “infamous paedo island” where all the rich and famous went to beast kids. Was mocked for years, then the Epstein thing came out where Prince Andrew is heavily linked and it turned out Epstein had an island where this stuff was done.

Again not saying guys like Alex Jones should be listened to as they are fucking crazy but it’s interesting that some of the outlandish shit they come out with can sometimes end up having some truth to it. Next we’ll be finding out water pollution is infact turning the frogs gay and American senators are eating aborted foetus’ Monty Oh Well
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09-13-2020, 01:13 AM -


Never even heard of this happening. Largest ever evacuation by boat, even bigger than Dunkirk. 500k people in 9 hours Dismay



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