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06-21-2020, 05:41 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:12 PM)Shteve Wrote: I'm fine with Neilson coming back in.


I’m feeling kind of the same. It’s just another example of the scattergun approach of running Hearts though, of which there’s so many examples during Budge’s tenure.

We’re meant to be appointing a SD first who you would expect would’ve have some sort of input on the managerial appointment. Yet within days we’ve apparently abandoned that approach and are appointing a head coach first.

Not appalled at Neilson coming back without Levein but it again suggests those at the top don’t have any sort of coherent plan when it comes to running the club. It’s not like Neilson is someone we had to get in now or never.
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06-21-2020, 05:41 PM -
Just after the Hearts support was finally united and a feeling of togetherness she goes and does this  Monty Ha
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06-21-2020, 05:42 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:39 PM)Hendricks Wrote: Thinking about this the DoF has to be in place. No way after everything that’s happened she’s making this decision without their blessing. Which means it’s someone very well known to us. I really hope it’s not JJ for reasons already stated which would suggest it’s either Weir (would be an interesting appointment in my opinion) or Pressley.

Agreed DOF must be in place and consulted on the decision.

Ranking in order of likelihood I reckon that leaves it being:

Weir
JJ
Snakely
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06-21-2020, 05:44 PM -
I’m not disappointed, proven he can set up a dynamic attacking side

Be interesting how he performs with Levein and his henchmen in the background



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06-21-2020, 05:44 PM -
I think DoF is the important decision here.

Neilson could prob do a more than adequate job under inspiring leadership.

If it's someone like Pressley - a control freak and a failure of a manager then we've basically hired Levein on steroids to create a new "masterplan" for our club.  Monty But
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06-21-2020, 05:46 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:37 PM)Picards Forehead Wrote: I’m actually reasonably happy with this depending on who the DOF is. I feel the championship season was mostly Neilson’s work and it all began to get unpicked when we struggled a bit and Levein got his grubby hands on it all.

Neilson and Fyssas dream team pls Quite Good

This is the thing, on paper Neilson is a good appointment and a definite upgrade on who we've had since he left. It's just a big risk given the baggage he carries from last time.

The worry for me is that this makes it much more likely the Sporting Director will be the snake IMO  Monty LewLew  You'd think someone with a better reputation around big clubs (Takis or Weir) would be more forceful in having their own ideas for manager, whereas Pressley would no doubt be happy to go with Neilson. Eek
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06-21-2020, 05:46 PM -
Happy with that Pretty good
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06-21-2020, 05:47 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:22 PM)Hank Scorpio Wrote: We won that game Jezza

Not before having to rip that particular tactic up
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06-21-2020, 05:47 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:17 PM)Ross Kemp On Spice Wrote: I reckon he fancies a pop at it without Levein handicapping him.

He doesn’t strike me as that kind of ego tbh, and he was happy to work under Levein for years without a peep, so I’m not so sure. I am confident that he’s got a better chance of putting it all together with no Levein though.

(06-21-2020, 05:19 PM)Hendricks Wrote: Hearts are a much much bigger club than Utd. It’s a no brainer for Neilson regardless of the huge question marks many of us have.


Of course we are, but the circumstances of Neilson in particular make this very much not a no-brainer. Massive uncertainty over where we’ll be playing, what kind of season we will be looking at, etc. You also have to look at the previous strained relationship with the fans and question why he’d bother.

(06-21-2020, 05:21 PM)S.J. Wrote: This may sound far away just now but everything is in place at Hearts to  challenge the OF like Mcinnes has done at Aberdeen (before it went stale)
Plus we have a great training ground a 20,000 seater stadium we can fill and benefactors that bankroll us.

I can’t understand why you would think Neilson would stay at United when Hearts come calling? If you back yourself then you 100% make the move from diddy United to the mighty Heart of Midlothian.


For the reasons above, this isn’t a straight up “who’s the bigger club” calculation at this moment in time. He’s been here and done it, in better times than this as well, and there’s a baggage on both sides.

I mean, it’s fine. He’ll be good enough and he’ll get us out the championship if that’s his job next year - or keep us well away from the bottom end of the premier if that’s his job. My initial reaction was “fuck off”, but he will be solid and from that point of view, it’s one of the most sensible appointments she could have made. The very definition of uninspiring and lacking imagination, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing after the last few years.

Some five year plan though Clanger Back in the championship with Neilson and a worse squad after all that money and time.
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06-21-2020, 05:48 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:47 PM)Our Daniel Tatum Wrote: Not before having to rip that particular tactic up

A plan B? Quite innovative for us these days :Tony Hmm
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06-21-2020, 05:49 PM -
From that Dazjambo on jkb:

Quote:25 minutes ago, dazajmbo said:
Sporting Director candidates were each given 3 names for head coach, and rank in 1/2/3 order.

Sporting Director is in place. Signed.


Giving the new SD 3 names and told to rank them. Budgie letting him know who's boss early doors  Monty Umm Surely you;d ask the SD's opinion on who they think could strategically take the club forward.
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06-21-2020, 05:49 PM -
Happy with it Monty Chuckle

No be that when we've not won a derby in 6 in 2023.
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06-21-2020, 05:52 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:47 PM)Little Bit Of The Boycey Wrote: He doesn’t strike me as that kind of ego tbh, and he was happy to work under Levein for years without a peep, so I’m not so sure. I am confident that he’s got a better chance of putting it all together with no Levein though.



Of course we are, but the circumstances of Neilson in particular make this very much not a no-brainer. Massive uncertainty over where we’ll be playing, what kind of season we will be looking at, etc. You also have to look at the previous strained relationship with the fans and question why he’d bother.



For the reasons above, this isn’t a straight up “who’s the bigger club” calculation at this moment in time. He’s been here and done it, in better times than this as well, and there’s a baggage on both sides.

I mean, it’s fine. He’ll be good enough and he’ll get us out the championship if that’s his job next year - or keep us well away from the bottom end of the premier if that’s his job. My initial reaction was “fuck off”, but he will be solid and from that point of view, it’s one of the most sensible appointments she could have made. The very definition of uninspiring and lacking imagination, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing after the last few years.

Some five year plan though Clanger Back in the championship with Neilson and a worse squad after all that money and time.

True, but if you are Neilson, you'll back yourself that you can take a club of Hearts stature back to where they belong. You won't be thinking "ah, i prob have the ability to keep them out of the bottom 6".

You make that calculation - which club can I drive forward and achieve more with. It's Hearts everyday of the week.

My issue is that Stephen Robinson would've made that same calculation. Wouldve been a much fresher appointment for the fans.
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06-21-2020, 05:56 PM -
I'm utterly stunned at this. In a week where the Hearts support has been galvanised and united in a way that it hasn't been in a very long time, a week where we've given the SPFL and everyone else a bloody nose and indicated we were taking the fight to them, we go and do this.

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Unbelievable really. The fans finally united in support of the club and a real sense of togetherness, and Budge goes and gets a man in who will divide the support once more.

The club was meant to be purging all aspects of Levein's legacy now him and his lackeys have been binned. So we go and get his original puppet back in? Fuck off.

Shat the bed against hibs, the money spinner comment, gifted those bastards the cup. All that and everything else in between. Let's not forget the Maltese pub mob debacle, comfortably one of the worst results not just in the clubs history but that of Scottish football.

Monty Oh Well  shite state of affairs.
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06-21-2020, 05:57 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:42 PM)Ross Kemp On Spice Wrote: https://twitter.com/mrewanmurray/status/...9115090949

Tweet deleted. Woy Not Sure
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06-21-2020, 05:59 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:57 PM)S.J. Wrote: Tweet deleted.  Woy Not Sure

I wonder if this story is right. Woy Not Sure

https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/...06696?s=21
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06-21-2020, 05:59 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:47 PM)Little Bit Of The Boycey Wrote: He doesn’t strike me as that kind of ego tbh, and he was happy to work under Levein for years without a peep, so I’m not so sure. I am confident that he’s got a better chance of putting it all together with no Levein though.



Of course we are, but the circumstances of Neilson in particular make this very much not a no-brainer. Massive uncertainty over where we’ll be playing, what kind of season we will be looking at, etc. You also have to look at the previous strained relationship with the fans and question why he’d bother.



For the reasons above, this isn’t a straight up “who’s the bigger club” calculation at this moment in time. He’s been here and done it, in better times than this as well, and there’s a baggage on both sides.

I mean, it’s fine. He’ll be good enough and he’ll get us out the championship if that’s his job next year - or keep us well away from the bottom end of the premier if that’s his job. My initial reaction was “fuck off”, but he will be solid and from that point of view, it’s one of the most sensible appointments she could have made. The very definition of uninspiring and lacking imagination, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing after the last few years.

Some five year plan though Clanger Back in the championship with Neilson and a worse squad after all that money and time.

To clarify: my point was it is a no brainer for Neilson and I stick by that. You aren’t turning down Heart of Midlothian for Dundee Utd. From the clubs point of view this is just further evidence of the systemic and continual failings over the last few years. I doubt we’ll get one verbally but it’s basically Budge admitting things have been a total shitshow under her boy.
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06-21-2020, 06:01 PM -
(06-21-2020, 05:59 PM)Mastermind Wrote: I wonder if this story is right. Woy Not Sure

https://twitter.com/record_sport/status/...06696?s=21


Doesn’t seem like it

https://twitter.com/scottburns75/status/...83041?s=21
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