This post was last modified: 08-12-2021, 08:55 PM by Hung S.J..
I'll still be alive mate.
I use moisturizer.
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Poor Playercey
Slug and not physical
Mikey
Human Rights Respecter
The 'let's do nothing because India and China' argument is so fucking stupid.
We absolutely should be putting pressure on those nations, but how would we do that without taking action ourselves? Particularly when we have historically still produced more emissions than they have (bearing in mind that climate change has had a cumulative effect over centuries and carbon stays in the atmosphere anyway), and would effectively be telling them that they now have to abstain from benefits they didn't enjoy and we did.
One practical way to put pressure on those nations which we could do, btw, would be to pass legislation stopping British banks from investing in new fossil fuels projects (including in nations like China/India). So it's not even true to say that legislation passed here can't have an impact there.
This argument is just the updated version of climate denialism for the same reactionary thickos who would like to still go down that route, but realise it's now discredited.
Mikey
Human Rights Respecter
Nobody in charge of anything knows what they're doing.
Plastics...
Let's ban straws and fucking cotton buds....
That's some laughable shite right there.
The majority of the plastics causing harm comes from fishermen dumping all their shite in the sea, but nobody wants to stop that, because it makes folk too much money.
The idea that what these countries are doing 'dwarves what Britain' is doing only works if you act as though climate change started in the last decade or so. The China/India argument and the argument that 'we're fucked regardless' are never any more than deflection tactics to undermine the suggestion that we should take action. In very simple terms, what this report and others suggest is that it's already baked in that things will continue to get worse for decades, but we can still avoid literal extinction. So shrugging your shoulders and saying 'people who care are all idiots. I am very clever' is just reactionary nonsense.
I'm just going to start throwing boiled tatties at folk from my window. fuck it.
Shanklands Fivehead
Seize the memes of production
Mikey
Human Rights Respecter
We all live in cloud coo coo land here.
While our government is fucking about with minor issues, Russia and China are tracking our every move and conspiring like fuck.
We are weak as piss. When the shit hits the fan, we'll go crying to the US.
I honestly think (or hope) the governments are sitting on something to sort it out. The pumps on the Arctic ice or the engineered plankton fields etc.
I mean, the governments of the world know that this could be the end of us. Even the rich. Theres no escaping whats coming.
Whats the point funding NASA or anything else for the future when you potentially have worldwide destruction on the horizon.
The ignorance of some of the big playing countries weirdly makes me feel that they have something up their sleeve and for whatever gain they arent revealing it just now. Hopeful/wishful thinking from me.
Mikey
Human Rights Respecter
The super rich folk will be thinking they're going to colonise Mars/upload their brains to microchips.
I genuinely believe that singularity will happen.
Though, not meant for this thread.
This post was last modified: 08-12-2021, 10:50 PM by Herzog.
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