01-21-2021, 10:31 AM
Sure is a relief for those of us who were always pro-indy but not particularly pro-SNP or pro-Sturgeon
01-21-2021, 10:31 AM
Sure is a relief for those of us who were always pro-indy but not particularly pro-SNP or pro-Sturgeon
01-21-2021, 10:42 AM
Hopefully as Sturgeons head is on the block it will lead to real democratisation of the Yes movement. Big opportunity here.
01-23-2021, 08:21 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/202...dApp_Other
Quote:Furious Kent residents step up fight over Brexit lorry parkYou won; get over it
01-23-2021, 09:08 AM
Disappointing they haven't asked how they voted. I'll take it by the look of them they voted to leave and say “fuck themâ€
01-23-2021, 09:36 AM
Cunts in Brexit central moaning as it's suddenly affecting them.
01-23-2021, 02:18 PM
See the BBC used their question at the White House briefing to ask where the Churchill bust had been moved to?
What a silly little country this is
01-23-2021, 02:20 PM
Marina Hyde had a great piece on that subject today (as usual)
https://twitter.com/MarinaHyde/status/13...1226641409
01-23-2021, 02:44 PM
I can't be arsed with Marina Hyde tbh
Flinging about 90s pop culture references in your every column, whether they are appropriate or not, does not good writing make. Writing for out of touch centrist dads
01-23-2021, 02:45 PM
If there was one guy on here who would definitely be a Marina Hyde fan, it's Partridge
01-23-2021, 02:47 PM
(Edited 01-23-2021, 02:47 PM by Cheeky Gnando’s.)
OMG SHE REFERENCED EAST 17, DON'T FORGET YOUR TOOTHBRUSH AND THE LION KING, MARINA YOU HAVE DONE IT AGAIN*
*I would place good money on her actually having referenced all of those things in her columns
01-23-2021, 02:48 PM
Don't get it with her either. Did she not roast Jeremy Corbyn when he was trying to get elected and now writes about what the evil, Tory government is doing every week?
01-23-2021, 03:01 PM
She's funnier than any of you cunts anyway
01-23-2021, 03:02 PM
What's her rep to posts ratio like?
01-23-2021, 03:05 PM
(01-23-2021, 02:48 PM)Mikey Wrote: Don't get it with her either. Did she not roast Jeremy Corbyn when he was trying to get elected and now writes about what the evil, Tory government is doing every week? That's the entire commentariat and most of this forum tbf (01-23-2021, 03:01 PM)Zizou Wrote: She's funnier than any of you cunts anyway Not really an endorsement
01-23-2021, 09:42 PM
My politics don't always align but she's a great writer.
01-23-2021, 10:35 PM
01-23-2021, 10:59 PM
Hyde has quite a few memorable articles where she rips the pish.
As Begbie's post above shows, a lot of folk fancy themselves as comedy writers, however rarely does the banter transfer so easily from their heads onto the page. This wee take down of Laurence Fox recently was quite good: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...ory-donors Quote:Ah, the romance of the culture war – what a pull it is! Riding the dairy horse down to the village hall to join up, setting off for the front with a song in your heart, telling your sweetheart you'll return to her an officer. I think there was a Cummings driving to the castle one last summer which was entertaining too.
01-24-2021, 09:48 AM
If you think that's great writing, fair enough I guess.
(01-24-2021, 09:48 AM)Makween Wrote: If you think that's great writing, fair enough I guess. You're right, that it comes down to personal taste. In the context of a light hearted opinion columnist, yes of course I think it's good. I'm not however saying she's Virginia Woolf. The bit I quoted is a really nice piece of writing (in my view) because in very few words it satirises the absurdity of the idea of 'culture wars' and mocks the self-importance that Laurence Fox has, how he sees himself compared to reality. Don Quixote type delusions, which works even more here because he on horseback (I thought you'd appreciate the DQ reference since you read it it recently ). For me, the best type of writing is one that can produce interesting imagery and concepts like that in the reader in as few words as possible. Overall I think she's a great writer, probably because I find Guardian columns so tedious in the main. I admit some of her patter can fall flat - very similar to Stewart Lee when he does his columns, so I'm suprised that Begbie is so harsh, but maybe he views her as a poor imitation of Lee. As an aside, modern day journalism I kind of split it in half in my mind. You have the big boys "investigative journalists" and then you have the pointless folk "the commentariat". If you are going to be part of the commentariat, then you have to have a self-awareness that you are primarly employed as a writer and not someone who's opinion actually means a shit, so it's your job to be entertaining, engaging or at least say something a little different. An Owen Jones-esque "so this is my view on Syrian refugees and this is why I think we treat refugees badly and I think we should treat them much better!" I can barely stomach them. While Nick Cohen is a marginally better writer than Owen Jones, he's also much higher on the scale of assuming he has any substance to provide on any topic beyond being a competent writer. Cohen is the shining example of someone who thinks he should be listened to because he can write. Actually hate this guy - his opinions are about as worthwhile as the folk on TH but he thinks he's Orwell. Fuck ye, Nicky. I suppose I appreciate Hyde's self awareness that her columns are just there to satirise public life rather than holding some sort of grandiose notion that they matter a jot. Ironically, she is probably more impactful on cultural consciousness with using this style than the uber-serious litany of guardan columnists that spraff utter shite. ^^^^Well said Scott - excellent piece of writing ^^^^ |
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